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♪ your abcs, come on, come on >> reporter: shoes e's doing th loco motion with daddy. >> all right. i love that. it was inspired lily ann. i tried to get my son nile to do pushups. we have his first attempt for you. look, he's good. that's balance for you, people. that's balance for you, people. anderson starts now. -- captions by vitac -- the crime shocked a nation, the rape and beating of a jogger and what follow sd a frenzy that sent five innocent teenagers to prison. everyone convicted the central park five. i'll talk to two of them about the settlement they finally reached with the city a quarter century after the fact today, in fact. also tonight, what we're learning about justin harris, the father of the center of what was either a terrible tragedy or
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crime. later american drones over baghdad, isis fighters closing on the capital and kurtish forces, is the iraqi powder keg about to explode? we begin with developments in the case of justin harris charged with murder in the death of his son cooper, just 22 months old left in the back of an suv outside the office on a hot, georgia day. police say they have ample evidence this was not an ordinary accident but yet to reveal the details that could come out next week. the funeral for cooper will be held tomorrow. martin savidge has the latest, what have you heard, martin? >> reporter: good evening, anderson. authorities haven't spoken publicly about the case for a couple days but it's clear they haven't changed their mind. they definitely do not think this was an accident. a lot of people here still talking about the information we revealed, a source close to the
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investigation told cnn a search of the computer turned up someone was searching how long until an animal would die in the heat of a car. meanwhile, we're anticipating that the search warrants will be made public, and when that happens, we could get more insight into what police are thinking when it comes into this investigation, and toxicology results will come by. the medical examiner is saying hypothermia but there could be something else at play in the child's blood stream and on top of that, a petition on change.organize stachange that started early on. people were outraged, it was quietly pulled down due to new developments in the case. the person that posted that still pray this was an accident and then as you pointed out, tomorrow is the funeral for 22 month old little cooler, his father will not be attending because he'll still be behind bars here in the cobb county
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jail. anderson? >> so there is a preliminary hearing next week and we expect more evidence to merge? >> reporter: yeah, i mean, it's really referred to here in the state of georgia as a possible cause hearing, a preliminary appearance, if you will. it's where you go before a judge and the judge considers if there is enough evidence to hold you on the charges. then it will go to a grand jury. it's anticipated there will be testimony maybe from lead investigators and that's where a lot of us will be looking to see if authorities think this really is murder. what is the motive here. what was the reasoning if it truly was that? is interesting, cameras will be allowed inside so it will be televised. you can bet a lot of people will be watching next thursday. >> it's hard to imagine any father would actually do this, kill his child in this way, left alone in a car for seven hours, agonizing. the fact that justin harris lost support online may say one thing about what the public believes.
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the mood back in his hometown in alabama says another. >> reporter: in his hometown of alabama friends say what justin ross harris is accused of accident make sense. family friend carol brown. >> it's hard to imagine that could happen. that that could have really happened just seems out of character for ross. i know people change. it's been 15 years or so since we've had contact in the church, so, you know, people change, but it's just hard for me to imagine that is the ross, the sweet ross harris, the sweet little funny boy that we knew. >> reporter: harris grew up here, a city an hour outside of birmingham known for its college football team and civil rights history. he spent a lot of the time at
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the church of christ. this is a family home he grew up here in t here. we knocked on the door and his family didn't want to talk. the man police say is charged with murdering his 22 month old son is not the man they know. he graduated in 1999 and for the next several years he stayed at tuscaloosa employed as a parking monitor and then later as a mail delivery clerk and in 2006 he found work with the tpolice department. he would stay in 2012 to earn a bachelor of science degree at the university he worked and off to atlanta, georgia for a new job as a web developer for home depot, a move that would change his life. back in his hometown of tuscaloosa his family and
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friends have been instructed by a lawyer not to talk to the media, all of them waiting to find out if little cooper's death was a tragic mistake or something else. >> nick joins us from alabama. the service for cooper is tomorrow. do we know much more about it? >> yeah, home depot, the employer of justin ross harris will pay through the funeral for a company grant that covers up to $10,000. after speaking to the church a little while ago they expect a lot of people. it's open to everyone including the media but no cameras allowed inside. the wife of justin ross harris and the mother of 22-year-old cooper harris made a request through her lawyer to get pictures off her husband's computer to use them at the funeral service. that was denied by the cobb county police department according to the family attorney. anderson? >> appreciate the update. >> i want to bring in our legal panel successfully defended lynn
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balfore who was charged with murder in the death of her son and found not guilty. also, legal analyst sunny hostin paul kalin. paul, you think cases like this should be prosecuted aggressively. >> yeah, i absolutely do. this case is off the scale. this is not a case of a mother running into a supermarket to get groceries and for getting she left the cade kidd in the car. this kid was left in the car for an entire day. >> it happens a lot. >> not for an entire day, anderson. people make mistakes of shut duration but eight hours the father goes back to the car and back in and of course, there is no evidence he was doing or somebody was doing on his computer searches about the death of animals by heat stroke by being locked up in cars. >> that's the bit that really raises questions with you, sunny. >> i disagree with paul. it happens at least last year 40 times and they die because they have been left for so many hours
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in the car. this happens. unfortunately, it's almost an epidemic. when i hear there can be evidence or may be evidence he searched on the internet for how long does it take for an animal to die in a car, in a hot car, that concerns me because i know that juries in particular, that is evidence that feels real to them. that is tangible. we've done those internet searches and remember casey anthony -- >> that comes from a single course, so, you know, and there is a lot we don't know. >> and i've been saying that from the very beginning. it comes from a single source. we don't know enough about the circumstances while it's troubling to me it's not enough. i want to hear about motive. i mean, what parent bakes their kid to death in a car without a motive. is there mental health issues? is there an insurance policy on this kid? he in financial trouble? i need to know more. >> if somebody did intend to do that, though, this is another level of -- >> first of all, i wouldn't be what we call felony murder. you can see prosecutors are
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reaching to make their case because they are charging it as a felony murder, not a premeditated murder, not a negligent murder but because you were cruel to him and you accidently caused his death, that is the equivalent of murder. so we know they have flaws in the case but we have to see the whole case. why are prosecutors doing this? >> you represented lynn balfore who did this, she left the child in the car until they died. she speaks about this and warnings people about this. there are circumstances. do you believe there are circumstances when a manslaughter charge is appropriate in cases like these? >> yes, there are. but i have to disagree with fellow guests on ssome of the ts they said. >> go ahead. >> if you forget your child is in the car, actually forget and we can talk about how that happens in a second, but you actually forget, that is not a crime because you have not
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willfully put your child in harm's way. if you leave your child in the car for a minute to run into a store, that's worse because then you're saying okay this is a calculate risk i'm taking and of course i'm not going to forget and you do. that can be manslaughter. okay? that's worse. >> one of the things that lynn talked about on this program how this could happen is that she actually created a false memory. she was so rushed and discombobulated that day, she created a false memory of having dropped her child off at daycare. she actually remembers dropping her child off even though she didn't do that. for a lot of people, that's hard to understand how that could happen. >> well, if you -- if it's something you do five times a week, okay? every week and so you have plenty of memory of dropping your child off and when you're distracted and you think you dropped your child off but because things turned around that day and she had not, it was her husband she dropped off, she
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knew she made a stop. she believed she had left the child off as she had and just always remembers what it's like and who she talked to and where she left it off and right on her way to work. >> i admitted on this show it happened to me and i don't think it's unusual for someone not to remember something you do all the time. don't people take vitamins every day? i take vitamins every day. sometimes i can't remember if i took the vitamin or not. i have a false memory about it. it happens. >> it has to do with us being safe. all seats are rear facing. >> you don't see them. >> when we were growing up and actually before those -- a lot of times those seats weren't around but the original seats the babies faced forward. >> when i was a kid, i was up in the front seat -- >> so was i. we all were. >> there were no seat belts. >> and you were probably safer from this sort of thing. >> i read something you said that we should get out there
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that after, you know, representing lynn balfore, she came up with ideas how to prevent this, that you kind of have taken to heart. >> there is two simple things you can do to help prevent this if you get into the habit that lynn taught me. one is you take something that belongs to your baby like the diaper bag, even though your baby is by law required to be in the backseat, you put the diaper bag in the front seat where you have a visual queue when you're getting out of the car and while you're driving that your baby is in the car. the other one is take something you always bring with you, whether it's your pocketbook, your briefcase, your computer, whatever it is you know you're going to take with you when you get out of the car and put that in the back with the baby. >> absolutely. >> so when you get it, you'll have the visual queue. >> sunny, you said you do that now. >> for years i drove without
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shoes. i would get into the car, put my children in the back of the car, take my shoes off and put them in the back of the car because the bottom line is no one is ever going to walk outside of their car barefoot. >> thanks for being with us. paul and sunny. >> my pleasure. >> thank you. quick reminder, set your dvrs to watch 360 whenever you want. sunny drives barefoot or did so she wouldn't forget her kids. can technology help? as many as 40 kids died in the cars last year. later, my conversation with two of the central park five how they spent years in prison in america's consciousness and the purr s per son fa case of pure evil and finally being able to think about the next steps in their lives.
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before the break we talked about how easy it is for good parents to leave your child in the backseat. the brain can fabricate memberry and rear facing child seats play a part. does automotive technology play a part. >> reporter: a shopping center parking lot, the place people are rushing ask distracted.
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what if you forget your child was still strapped in the car seat? pam d'anglo believes she's developed a project to stop a tragedy. this is the infant toddler e lead system and the idea is if you walk out of this car and your child is in the backseat, this fob will headache a sound and you will know your child is in a car. >> absolutely. >> reporter: texas based baby alert international is a number of companies that sells such devices. it uses a key fob and sensor pad on the car seat. the pad is here connected to this. >> right. >> reporter: the pad is activated by the weight of the baby. when i walk away with this, the weight is still on the car seat and when i walk away, this will go off. >> right. >> reporter: we get a little help from a family we meet in the parking lot. what i have here now is a grandma and aunt and little
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quincy who is six months old and he'll demonstrate how well this product works, correct? >> correct. >> reporter: you ready to try it? >> ready. [crying] >> you're okay. >> reporter: it's pretty clear baby quincy is not happy to be part of the experiment. we don't take it personally. we'll see if it works. if you walk out of the car and the baby is still here. >> hang on to this. >> reporter: grandmother ellie drives her suv to another part of the parking lot and gets out of the vehicle and we leave well air conditioned for the test. she continues walking to a store in the shopping center. >> okay. it's beeping. so i forgot something in my car. better go check. >> reporter: hey, there is a baby in here, there is also your daughter. >> there it is. >> reporter: that seems to work well. >> it works well. it takes a few steps but it does bring you back.
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>> reporter: just like 15 seconds. >> that's the important thing. >> reporter: this is certainly not fool proop, batteprooffoolpt low, the sound may not be heard. while products are well intentioned, they are unreliable and there is no substitute for care giving. >> our sales have increased, especially when there is a tragedy, that's when we get a lot of phone calls, a lot of orders at that time. >> reporter: gary joins us from sugar land, texas. are these devices easy to find? there are a bunch of different products. >> reporter: if you don't like to shop online, they are difficult to find. very few stores carry them. if the government came out with a favorable recommendation two years ago, more stores would carry them. they are easy to buy online. there are companies in the business making similar technology. this item that we showed you in the story retails for about $70 online and the woman who runs the company based here in sugar
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new york city's comptroller approved a settlement in the lawsuit over the wrongful conviction of five men. one man, kevin richardson was
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filled with emotion. >> y'all don't really understand what we went through. y'all try to dehumanize us as human beings but we're still here. we're strong. people called us animals, wolf pack. i have four sisters and a mother. i would never do anything to a woman. i was raised better tan that. >> it's impossible to over state what a big deal this was at the time. richardson and four others, the youngest 14 charged with raping and beating a jogger. the police said the teens had been on a crime spree in the park terrorizing random people except it just wasn't true. >> reporter: it was a story that not only gripped new york city but inflamed racial tensions around the country. five black and latino teens
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accused of a horrific crime raping and beating a white woman jogging through central park in 1989. >> she was just hollering like help, help. >> reporter: after what appeared to be confessions, it seemed like an airtight case. the jury didn't buy a claim the confessions were coerced and although there is no dna match and the victim has no memory of the attack, each of them is found guilty. at the time, the teens are called animals, donald trump asks to bring back the death penalty. there were seven long years in prison for four of the boys, 13 years for another before a major break in the case in 2002. >> the verdicts have been set aside in their entirety. [ cheers ] >> reporter: all five convictions are thrown out. overturned after a stunning confession from a serial rapist whose dna was found at the
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scene. while the teens were in jail, the real rapist didn't stop. >> he commits at least five more rapes that we know of after the central park jogger. >> reporter: suing for damages has taken years, more than a decade. the city has always maintained it acted in good faith with a settlement, there is no apology. instead, the city calls it a wise solution closing as they put it a difficult chapter in new york's history. susan candiotti, cnn, new york. >> anyways, a shameful chapter. it's been a long horrific journey for antron mccray, kevin richardson, raymond santana and kharey wise. you said you never thought this day would come. what was this day like finally after these years to get it settled?
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>> you know, i said i waited for this day to come, right? when the day finally came, i couldn't sleep, and i felt like even though we was about to acre knowledge the settlement was done, i felt someway, somehow the city would pull the rug from under our feet and say oops, sorry. like when you fight against an agency or system for so long, we talking 25 years and to get to the point where you stop fighting it's difficult to take the gloves off and hang them up, you know. to me it's like we getting up and going to do a press conference for fighting against injups 't injustice for the central park five. it still hasn't sunk in. >> i want to read something your mom said. she said i'm not smiling or laughing all the way to the bank, i'm still covered in shame. do you feel that, as well? a sense of shame? >> there is a scar placed on us
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and that scar hasn't been removed just because we've come to this point. that's very real. like i said in the film, we really went through that. and it was shameful because we was always known as raymond santana, the guy from the central park jogger case, not raymond santana, my childhood buddy or something like that and the same for all of us. it's hard to get past that even though we know that this is now a new chapter, you know, but just yesterday, so to speak -- >> and no amount of money, i mean, obviously a huge settlement, but no amount of money wipes that away, no amount of money makes up. you had years of your life taken from you. >> right. >> people have not been in that situation can't even imagine being in prison for something you did not do. >> yeah, exactly. and after the announcement of the settlement, you know, it
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seemed like the 40 million decided to take a life of its own but the 40 million, what do you think? it wasn't even about the central park five anymore. and it was like wow, like they just pushed us to the side like the money means more and for us, that wasn't the case. it was just about closure. finally coming to an end and putting, you know, an end to the chapter and moving on with our lives. >> what does this tell you about, i mean, about the system, about how things work? i mean, you've got an an vdvant, you were a victim of the system that betrayed you, the things that should work to protect you were working against you. has that changed the way you look at, you know, the justice system and are you skeptical when you hear, you know, everybody ganging up on somebody whose committed a crime? >> i'm very skeptical when i hear reports because of what happened to us, you know.
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and even after the fact, even when something like justice happens and the truth comes out, and for us that's unfortunate because we still live in that reality. we still live in the reality of how many others, you know, the central park five is a celebrated case among hundreds of thousands of central park cases. people was able to retire with full pensions off the backs of us and gets raises and move on with their lives. >> no one was reprimanded. >> no. that's hard to swallow this whole case i always say was more sexy for it to be five individuals that have done this to one woman than for it to be one individual to do this. it's unfortunate because with the regards to the central park jogger herself, she was victimized in the worst way because she was raped but then she was lied to. so imagine for 13 years being made to believe a story for 13
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years you were told, hey, we got the real perpetrators and 1 y3 r years later, the closure that you had is now gone, it's now blown up in your face. >> as you look forward now, what do you hope to do? do you -- how do you see your life? >> you know, because for me, because the possibility was taken away, i'm not so quick to rush into that. >> right. >> i want to sit back and let my thoughts manifest and anyway possible but do it on my terms, you know, don't rush. don't make any rush decisions and i say i'll be at work on monday. >> at the end of the day, it's not enough money. any amount of money wouldn't be enough. we still have to provide for our families and make proper decisions and do what is right.
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most of this money will make sure our families are okay, our children are taken care of. so it's not like we can retire, you know, that definitely isn't part of the plan right now, you know, but being able to think about next steps is definitely a great feeling to have that opportunity to be able to do that. >> yeah. well thank you so much for coming and talking to us. >> pleasure. >> thank you for having us. >> i spoke with jonathan moore who represented four of the five in the lawsuit acolluding raymond santana and kevin richardson. just ahead, iraq on the edge, isi serks fighters closing in and armed u.s. drones flying overhead. is the crisis about to spin out of control and u.s. involvement about to grow? plus a tea party leader accused of taking part in a smear campaign has taken his own life.
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armed american drones flying over baghdad to protect advisors on the ground. their mission is said to be defensive, any offensive strikes would need authorization from president bush and a u.s. warship carrying marines has been redirected to the persian gulf. that is eight naval ships on stand by. the prime minister of iraq slammed the u.s. for fighter jets that could have stopped advance for isis. he is buying them from russia instead. all of this as new allegations of atrocities are coming to light and fears of a widening conflipct are growing. arwa damon and jim schutto joins me. these drones, sounds like an escalation. what does it sound like air strikes from the u.s.? >> not for offensive operations, primaimarily for force protecti. you'll have 300 u.s. military
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advisors on ground if they get in trouble they need a backup as possibility but i spoke earlier today to john kirby, and said listen, you know, if there is a situation baghdad comes under threat, other key assets come under threat, could these be called, you know, into action and he said yes, we're prepared for all missions but that order would have to come from the president. >> this conflict in iraq is linked to syria but word isis has their eyes on jordan, which is a significant u.s. ally and has been up to now relatively stable. >> and that is a legitimate concern, anderson. they have been dealing with problems when it comes to the population. let's not forget that al qaeda and iraq's first leader was of jordan descent, as well. that being said. this is already a region conflict. you have the regional power
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houses in a stand off in both the iraqi and syrian battle fields and many people will tell you the way iraq and syria end up going is going to be the way the region goes. this is a region redefining itself to a degree and many fear the worst is yet to come. >> jim, there is more u.s. assets headed to the region. you know, for someone skeptical about this, it could be argued that this looks like mission creep. it seems like every day there is more and more numbers being added. >> it does. this additional ship, the uss baton, 1,000 marines on board and seven other ships there, two functions one in position for a possible evacuation of the hundreds of u.s. embassy staff that are in baghdad at this point and elsewhere in the country, two, support of those advisors on the ground, if they, you know, force protection again like those armed drones, it does give capability but i have to tell you, having traveled with secretary kerry this week in iraq, my strong impression is
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that this administration is in no rush for offensive military action in iraq, air strikes, et cetera. they are placing emphasis on a political agreement. they want to be moving toward political compromise because they feel offensive military operations in the meantime one, won't have much effect on the ground and might be perceived supporting one side in what is looking more and more like a civil war. so, you know, you have the assets on the ground that give capability and options but order coming from the president, it does not seem imminent at this point. >> arwa, two weeks ago we saw mass executions by isis forces of prisoners they had taken. i understand there are disturbing reporting by iraqi forces. >> that's right and that was highlighted in a report put out by amnesty international but also something we have been investigating. executions of detainees carried
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out as they were evacuating various facilities to include incidents that were reported to have taken place. human rights watch putting out a report saying now it has analyzed satellite imagery and can confirm the two mass graves that we saw in saddam hussein's town were executed by isis. that's contributing to the growing tensions and anderson, unraveling of this country. >> arwa, stay safe, jim, thanks. susan hendrix with the 360 bullet bulletin. >> a report submitted to president obama says the va health system is plagued by ineffective leadership and kboet a corrosive culture. the findings come from the acting va secretary and white house official assessing the va crisis. officials in mississippi say attorney and tea party leader mark mayfield is dead after an apparent suicide. he was arrested in may and
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according to a local newspaper accused of conspireing with three others to get a photo taken of thad cochran's wife who suffers from dementia and lives in a nursing home. it was used in a primary run off race this past tuesday. a big shakeup at "the view." it will be moving in an exciting new direction this fall. sherry sheppard said she's incredibly grateful to barbara walters who she called her second mom, anderson? >> thanks. next i'll talk to sebastian about his film the intensity of war and why so many want to go back. a mom to be eight months pregnant defends her track and field championship running eight months pregnant. was it the right thing to do or safe thing to do? i'll talk to sanjay gupta ahead.
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in tonight's american journey, u.s. soldiers went to war and were forever changed by it. now younger made a second film about the same soldiers. the title references the valley
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also known as the valley of death, one of the most dangerous places in the war in afghanistan. here is a clip from the new movie. >> until you hear the snap of a bullet go by your head or hit your head, there is nothing else like it. all right, we're getting engaged again because our guys moved. blow my [ bleep ] drums out. having a blast. [ bleep ]. pretty much -- oh [ bleep ]! >> your turn! >> i'm on [ bleep ] fire! >> tim was killed in libya so sebastian younger made the sequel on his own and joins me tonight. even though it picks up where the film restreppo left off, you want people to understand.
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>> it came out in the middle of two wars, i wanted civilians to get a feel for what combat is like for soldiers that we send over there. the next is different, it's an attempt to enquire a little more deeply how combat affects the young men. it was all young men out there and there was some very interesting conversations with these guys that we had about the consequences of this. a lot of them afterwards really missed it and wanted to go back, which is a puzzling thing on the face of it if you think how hard it was out there and dangerous. and the other sort of end of the spectrum, you know, one guy really ruminated whether god hates him for all the killing and added but i would do it over again the same way if i had to. complex stuff for these soldiers. >> but wanted to go back because of the intensity of the experience, because it was -- you talk to soldiers, to marines, to those who have served and say often that
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it's -- there is nothing like it anywhere else. there is nothing like the bond they had with others, there is nothing like the experience. >> i think in combat, you're sort of dosed, if you will, with two potent chemicals, one is adrenaline. men in particular respond strongly to that experience and the other is human closeness. they are sleeping shoulder to shoulder with each other over the course of a year on a remote ridge top. they are completely relying on each other for their very survival. there was no internet, no phone, no tv, nothing. they were on a ridge with each other for a year. and that kind of intense human closeness i think actually reproduces our human evolution, our evolutirevolutionary past q closely and i think they come out of that experience really kind of missing it and missing the security of it and get back
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to this wide open society and they are alone again and i think it's very, very unsettling for them. those are two things i think they miss. >> you made it are tim heathering ton who was killed in libya. how different was it making this without him? how difficult was it to make it without him? >> emotionally it's -- a lot of things are difficult without him. he was a very good friend of mine. i -- you know, my found myself in the edit room sort of like -- he was almost there, the ghost, he and i affected each other a lot. sometimes i would channel his opinion about things as we were doing the editing. mainly, i just miss him. >> i want to ask you about bowe bergdahl because this film comes out at a time with so much focus on him and him trying to understand, you know, why he left. i heard you say that for beau bergdahl and we don't know the circumstances but a lot of guys
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consider him a deserter. if he did just walk out of that base, that is an enormous betrayal of those he served with. >> i mean, i'm not a soldier but i've been with soldiers a lot and i think that would be considered a very high betrayal, and, you know, i've heard it suggested it was so dangerous he wanted out of the pressure cooker situation. it was more dangerous outside the wire. i don't quite buy that. i'm curious what he has to say about it. >> i look forward to seeing the film sebastian. thank you. >> thank you. you don't expect a runner who finishes last to get a lot of attention unless they are eight months pregnant and an inspiration to a lot of people. the question is it safe to run eight months pregnant? i'll speak to sanjay gupta more about her case. i make a lot of purchases for my business. and i get a lot in return
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for most olympic runners finishing dead last would be heart breaking, not the case for her. she got a huge applause where the u.s. field and track championships ran the 800 meters eight months pregnant, that's right, eight months pregnant. she finished 35 seconds off her personal best. >> congratulations to her. >> i didn't want to be judged or
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have any ill things said about me and i wanted to do what my heart and desire wanted to do. >> she says she ran with her doctors approval. the question is how is that? we'll get insight from our own doctor, dr. sanjay gupta. what do you make of her running this race while pregnant? is that safe? >> it's an extraordinary thing and i would say it's probably not safe for everybody, but we're talking about a well-trained athlete. what is so fascinating, anderson, if you look at the human body, when a woman is pregnant, it will do everything it can, the body will to protect the uterus and baby. it doesn't want to divert blood flow away for anything but you got a woman running and needs blood flow to the arms and legs and why is this person running? she must be running because she's running for her life saving herself and the baby. the body allows blood to go to the arms and legs but again, she's a conditioned athlete. for someone to go start doing this, the body hasn't adjusted
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to that, it could be a problem. >> this may be a dumb question but is the baby bouncing around during the run? >> yeah, the baby is rocking around in the uterus. the amniotic fluid is a really good cushion and buffer. so the baby will rock around and move around but that part of the whole experience is not unsafe. she was asked about that specifically, take a listen. >> usually the baby gets rocked to sleep on runs and about 30 minutes afterwards, like right now i'm getting poking. a little like hey, i want to go on that run again. >> sounds like the baby gets used to it. >> how much did being 34 weeks pregnant slow her down? >> i asked the same question. i was curious, again, you're talking about a world class athlete. we pulled her times to get an idea. she was doing the 800 meter. her personal best at the bottom, the top 2:32 so 34, 35 seconds
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slower when she's pregnant, which is incredible. >> that's amazing. >> do you know how fast that is, that's half a mile in two and a half minutes. she's running a five mile minute face. that's faster than you could run i bet not pregnant. >> yes, there is no way, yes. i tried, i did a piece for "60 minutes" i tried to race against a marathon runner, i couldn't do it. i was running full out and i couldn't keep up with her for ten seconds. it was pathetic. >> it doesn't look like they are going fast. >> you never can tell how fast they are going. she got a standing ovation from the crowd. >> yeah, you know, it was a powerful moment. i will tell you, even people say, you know, a woman who is pregnant shouldn't be doing things like this or what are they capable of doing, i think that's part of the reason she did this so publicly, she wanted to show what was possible. take a listen. >> this is what it looks like to be a professional athlete as a
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woman and continue on your career. for me, i wanted to celebrate where i'm at. >> we'll hear from her again. she'll have the baby and you can see, she'll continue to train while pregnant and continue to race. >> sanjay, thanks very much. fascinating. >> thank you. >> amazing stuff. >> amazing stuff. that does it for us. -- captions by vitac -- "the sixties" starts now. all people should obey just laws, but i would also say that an unjust law is no law at all. >> i say segregation loud and segregation forever. >> america is not living up to the dream of liberty and justice for all. >> primarily with a politician. >> we're willing to be beaten for democracy. >> they would give anything in the world if we have trouble here. >>